> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:04:57 +0800
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> To: gilmoua@ornsun.agric.nsw.gov.au, cullisb@wagsun.agric.nsw.gov.au
> From: "N.W. Galwey" <ngalwey@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: Further problem with prediction
>
> Dear Arthur and Brian,
>
> Thank you for your full replies to my prediction query. I'm
> clearly going to have to grapple either with .pin files, or with the
> alternative that Brian suggested. I think there will be more queries when
> I've digested your answers, but here's just one in the meantime. As Arthur
> surmised, the missing value were mostly to accommodate an irregular field
> lay out - COL 1 had more rows than COL 2. Arthur, you say I should
> allocate a treatment, rep etc. to these plots. Such allocations will be
> arbitrary: are you sure this doesn't matter?
YES
You fit a fixed effect for each 'missing value' so
they do not contribute to other effects in the analysis.
The purpose of allocating a treatment level though is to avoid
other parts of the model being confused: Otherwise you have an extra
'treatment group' so treatment constraints will be confounded with
missing value effects. You would not be sure where the singularity turned up
and if it turned up in one of the missing values, other effects in the model
would not be what you expected.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Nick
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> University of Western Australia,
> Nedlands, WA 6709, Australia.
>
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