Re: Using plant pedigrees...

From: Arthur Gilmour <arthur.gilmour_at_AGRIC.NSW.GOV.AU>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:53:30 +1100

Dear Scott,

In using ASREML for sugarcane (where lines are fixed clones), we find
that it would be more convenient to be able to use a GIV file, rather
than a PEDIGREE file when trying to formulate the model for estimation
of breeding values (another reason for this is that lines can be used
either as males or females).

*** ASReml generates a message but does not otherwise mind
if particular parents are used as male and female.

So, given a pedigree file, ASREML can apparently deal with clones by
using 'ide' in the model:

Y ~ !f something !r ide(Clone)

*** ide(Clone) ignores the relationships between Clones

 Clone !P
clone.ped !GIV
 Y ~ mu !r Clone

is equivalent to

 Clone *
 Y ~ mu !r giv(Clone,1)

provided care is taken to code Clone consistently between the factor
definition and the .giv file

I would like to know if, when I output the calculated GIV file for this
run (using !GIV), the matrix of distances will also assume that the
pedigree is of clones? Or will the GIV file be the same as if I had used
a model like this:

Y ~ !f something !r giv(Clone)

*** Does that make sense?

Best wishes in the Name of Jesus Christ, my Saviour.
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Arthur Gilmour PhD
Principal Research Scientist (Biometrics)
NSW Department of Primary Industries
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